let's see here let's get you some light and I'm gonna give this production a few  minutes to get going and let people come into the room as we present to you a new


show. So this will be fun. I have a list of questions for Greg. I'm gonna pull them up.  The crowd is here. The crowd wants to know. We have Joel Berman currently ranked number six.  Diego Goya currently ranked number four. Sean Madden is here. Ryan Mock is here ranked number


three. And again, we will let the crowd enter the chat room before we get these 20 questions going,  especially folks that have PMed me the questions. We want to let them chime in. I'll give you a  background of Greg and I'll let him introduce himself as well. This is going to be a good show,  folks. This is Noel Holds Barred. Danny McCain is next Monday. I'm sure Joel Berman can give me


Always have treasure hunt here.

See if I can get anything for Greg.

A sponsor.

some questions for Daniel McCain. Some good ones.  Some possibly offensive questions that could be warranted.  It just depends on what perspective and what side you're on there.  Always have treasure hunt here.  See if I can get anything for Greg.  A sponsor.


I think you're in pretty good shape.

Gary Kessel tonight is your sponsor.

That is a Greg New Academy right there.

Gary Kessel, the official sponsor.

you'll sweep the 3-4 spot for a pack of sprees.  You know, I don't think it's a huge factor being 3 or 4.  I think you're in pretty good shape.  I guess you get Berman in the quarters as a 6 seed.  Berman's really weak, so that's a nice spot to be in at 3, actually.  Gary Kessel tonight is your sponsor.  That is a Greg New Academy right there.  Gary Kessel, the official sponsor.


Greg is here.

It would be fun.

There are a lot of people.

Gary Kessel's Tennis Academy, the official sponsor of tonight's show, 20 Questions.  Greg is here.  Joel Berman cannot wait, I'm sure, for Danny McCain next Monday night.  I think Joel Berman would be a good guest on 20 Questions, 20 random questions to ask  Joel Berman about his junior tennis career, post-career, whatever, 20 questions about  anything that is either not controversial or controversial.  It would be fun.  There are a lot of people.


Scott Sameshi is here.

You want 20 questions, Joel?

All right.

So we'll book you.

We'll book you for 20 questions.

I think Eric Dobsch would be a very good guest on 20 Questions as well.  I think if people can dive into what Eric did in his teens and 20s, that would be a lot of fun.  Scott Sameshi is here.  You want 20 questions, Joel?  All right.  So we'll book you.  We'll book you for 20 questions.  You want to do, let's see, what's a Monday?


August 6th

can you do August 6th

Monday night

August 6th

Joel Berman

can he be our third guest

on 20 questions

that would be good

I'll take Joel Berman

as a guest

for 20 questions

Brett Rowley's here

in front of Greg

so Greg

just hang tight there

I'm going to let people

come into the chat room

we're going to bring Greg

in about 5 or 6 minutes

August 6th  can you do August 6th  Monday night  August 6th  Joel Berman  can he be our third guest  on 20 questions  that would be good  I'll take Joel Berman  as a guest  for 20 questions  Brett Rowley's here  in front of Greg  so Greg  just hang tight there  I'm going to let people  come into the chat room  we're going to bring Greg  in about 5 or 6 minutes


All right, Joel Berman has been booked.

That's a Monday night.

Joel Berman will...

So I'm excited about that.

All right, Joel Berman has been booked.  Joel Berman has been booked for August 6th.  That's a Monday night.  Joel Berman will...  It's interesting because Joel Berman is going to come on after Danny McCain.  We still have heat, I think, between McCain and Berman.  And that's going to be interesting to see what questions are asked to him,  followed up one week later by Joel Berman.  So I'm excited about that.


Joel, the TV box is still here, but it will be removed soon, I promise you.  I have a new chair. The new chair has covered the box pretty well.  Scott Del Mastro is here, and he is in this room right now.  Scott is our guest on Sunday, July 29, this Sunday, on Lines Are Out.  Lines Are Out is a much different platform than 20 Questions.  It's an interview, for the most part, Lines Are Out.


This box is the greatest thing ever.

Did Greg knew I mean to Miski?

Where's the guest of honor?

He will be coming.

He will be coming on.

He is there.

He is there.

He is here, I should say.

I just want to bring in more people.

I want to bring in more people.

I'll tell you what.

ask questions as well.

20 questions are going to be 20 questions asked by you, the people.  This box is the greatest thing ever.  Did Greg knew I mean to Miski?  Where's the guest of honor?  He will be coming.  He will be coming on.  He is there.  He is there.  He is here, I should say.  I just want to bring in more people.  I want to bring in more people.  I'll tell you what.  I think it would be good if the crowd, if Greg is okay with this,  ask questions as well.


Maybe he can.

Maybe he cannot.

I will find out.

Is Greg going to duck any questions?

I hope not.

I hope he answers them.

If Greg can handle a couple more questions.  Maybe he can.  Maybe he cannot.  I will find out.  Is Greg going to duck any questions?  I hope not.  I hope he answers them.  You know, a lot of them are tennis-related questions, which came to be a surprise to me.  There were a lot more tennis questions than I thought.  There are certainly, you know, questions that are going to be interesting.


Let's see who we have.

We have quite a few.

We have a good viewership right now.

We have a pretty good viewership.

Adcock was ducking last night.

I do agree.

but there are a lot of tennis questions here.  So we're just trying to bring the crowd in, draw a good rating.  And by doing that, I have to continue to be dramatic, as Greg would say.  Let's see who we have.  We have quite a few.  We have a good viewership right now.  We have a pretty good viewership.  But I want to make sure that people don't miss.  Adcock was ducking last night.  I think Trey was ducking the Italy question.  I do agree.


That must have been pretty personal.

But I respect that.

You know, but he did duck the question.

He did duck the question.

The tennis questions are boring.

Ask about porn and drugs and jail.

Well, we do have porn.

The drugs were not asked in my emails.

I don't know if it's something that, you know, he didn't want to dive into.  That must have been pretty personal.  But I respect that.  You know, but he did duck the question.  He did duck the question.  The tennis questions are boring.  Ask about porn and drugs and jail.  Well, we do have porn.  We do have, I didn't have any drug questions.  But you guys can ask a drug question for Greg New.  The drugs were not asked in my emails.


so

So yeah

They certainly the porn industry, but a lot of people I guess are curious to think what your what your you know tennis stuff is to Greg  so  One of the questions was pretty awkward about your your apparel back in junior tennis, but I think you'll figure out who that came from  So yeah  Tamara Sutton is here. Maybe Tamara Sutton has questions for you Greg. That'd be interesting see if Tamara can come up with a good question


This could be offensive.

But if you're not, please join us.

I hope you're not.

No one's offended.

Just hide your kids.

Don't let your kids watch the show.

I know my kids wouldn't watch the show.

My wife would kill me.

So, all right.

Now, Tamara, this is going to be, and all the ladies out there, this could be offensive.  This could be offensive.  So if you're offended by foul language, some interesting things, stay away.  But if you're not, please join us.  I hope you're not.  No one's offended.  Just hide your kids.  Don't let your kids watch the show.  I know my kids wouldn't watch the show.  My wife would kill me.  So, all right.


Greg New is coming in.

We're adding him right now.

So without further ado, I am going to bring Greg in, my first Boca Raton male guest.  Greg New is coming in.  We're adding him right now.  And there he is, a St. Andrews, Scott and Columbia University's Greg New Namiski.


St. Andrew's finest.

Greg, how you doing?

Oh, they're so proud of me.

Finest alumnus.

And Columbia.

And Columbia.

damn good.

So, we're going to get all that.

I'm really stoned, by the way.

He's really stoned.

How did you...

What's up, Dauber?

St. Andrew's finest.  Greg, how you doing?  Oh, they're so proud of me.  Finest alumnus.  And Columbia.  And Columbia.  Well, there's going to be questions about St. Andrew's that I think are actually pretty  damn good.  So, we're going to get all that.  But before we start asking you questions, Greg, give people out there...  I'm really stoned, by the way.  He's really stoned.  How did you...  What's up, Dauber?


see I need I need you to tell everybody about your story you're from Boca Raton  where you grew up and your path give them something about you  Boca bass finest baby yeah I grew up in I grew up in Boca went to Boca Academy  which is now Pinecrest elementary started playing tennis when we moved down


here from Jersey when I was five or six and then I went to st. Andrews from sixth  grade on how did you scout girls I will get into that mock-amania so yes so I  went to st. Andrews from middle school through high school and I started play  I was late to tournaments I think I started playing tournaments my second


year of 12s like at the end of my second year that is like that is my parent yeah so cw was my first  tennis coach i was like six and uh i i forget how we found but we didn't know about tournaments  until i was already at the end of my uh second year of 12s but the first tournament i played


was at Montana.

And I think that's gone, right?

Montana.

Montana club is gone.

It's gone.

It's in the rubble.

Shit.

Those were great courts, man.

I played Mike.

I think.

Wow.

I think.

And I could be wrong about that, Sammy.

I don't know if Sammy's on.

Mike Imber.

was at Montana.  And I think that's gone, right?  Montana.  Montana club is gone.  It's gone.  It's in the rubble.  Shit.  Those were great courts, man.  So the first tournament I played, I won, actually.  I played Mike.  I think I played Sammy Gompers in the semis.  I think.  Wow.  I think.  And I could be wrong about that, Sammy.  I don't know if Sammy's on.  But I know for sure I played Mike Imber in the finals.  Mike Imber.


We'll get into that.

Mike went to Palmetto.

So he was kind of like my FTA partner.

Al was a year older also.

But then, yes, absolutely, Mae.

Absolutely.

I love Mike very much, as you know.

Mike Imber, who was my doubles, nationals, doubles partner my entire career.  Well, Al Kinkle was my doubles partner also.  We'll get into that.  But Al Kinkle and I went to St. Andrews together.  Mike went to Palmetto.  So he was kind of like my FTA partner.  Al was a year older also.  So we mostly played high school together.  But then, yes, absolutely, Mae.  Absolutely.  I love Mike very much, as you know.


And it was at Montana.

And I played Ember in the finals.

So I'm laying the groundwork for all the amazing shit that we did together after we were done playing doubles together.  So the first tournament I played was the end of my second year in 12s.  And it was at Montana.  And I played Ember in the finals.  And I didn't really know how to keep score that well.  I didn't really know how tiebreakers worked.


and um so in the finals we went to a third set tie break and i had an idea but i guess it was  you know something like eight six in the third set tie break or 10 eight or whatever it was but  i didn't know that i had won until mike started getting really pissed and like breaking his  racket like fuck them whatever he knew so he knew that i had won so then i was like yeah  and uh yeah and then we've been we've been very close friends maybe best friends ever since mike


and I. So yeah, we had lots of fun playing doubles together. What did we do? We lit, oh,  at Florida Open one year, we, it was always over July 4th, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,  because Wimbledon was always on. I remember when Agassi beat Ivanovic for his first slam,  and Mike and I set our hotel room on fire because it was, yeah, it was fireworks weekend,


and we had to be, you know, 14 or so.

And we bought on the sneak, you know,

we bought a bunch of fireworks.

One of us did.

And we were like, oh, yeah, smoke bomb.

You know what, May?

bottle rockets or, no, Roman candles.

into the pool.

and we had to be, you know, 14 or so.  And we bought on the sneak, you know,  I guess when we were driving over through Alligator Alley,  we bought a bunch of fireworks.  One of us did.  And we were like, oh, yeah, smoke bomb.  You know what, May?  It was actually, it was, what are those rock,  bottle rockets or, no, Roman candles.  We had them pointed accidentally the wrong way.  We were trying to shoot them off of the hotel balcony  into the pool.  And we shot them back into the hotel room


and the fucking carpet call on fire.

So we were terrible.

Oh, God, look at Greg May.

I didn't even, I didn't know.

They were like, that's it.

You kids are going home.

And you know what we used to do?

Ridiculous.

like fucking retards.

And we didn't really,

and the fucking carpet call on fire.  So we were terrible.  Oh, God, look at Greg May.  I didn't even, I didn't know.  So, yeah, man, so they cut that tournament short on us.  They were like, that's it.  You kids are going home.  And you know what we used to do?  Ridiculous.  We used to put notches in our eyebrows when we'd won.  We were like vanilla ice wannabes, me and Ember.  So we would put little notches in our eyebrows  like fucking retards.  And we didn't really,


we weren't we weren't that good so we only had like a couple oh you know what we started doing  actually i'll tell you what we actually started doing consolation wins counting for the notches  at first we were like no we can't do that but then we started like losing first round you know so  we're like all right well consolation wins count so so anyway so that's the story of me and imber  with tennis um i went on to uh colombia we'll go back to st andrews and whatnot and he went to


to UNLV. So Mike got a full ride to UNLV. Yeah. And he became a great player in college.  School is going to be very difficult if I continue to try to play. So I played freshman  year, but then after that, it was either school or tennis, and I wasn't going anywhere with tennis.  So I said, I might as well try to graduate because it was a pretty tough school, man.


Al and I were really good.

And so that's what I decided to do was to focus on graduating, which I was lucky to do.  And so to back up a little bit, so that was kind of the FTA deal.  I was really a great, I was maybe in the low 20s.  You know, I was good at doubles, believe it or not, for being short.  Al and I were really good.  We were really heavily recruited by like Air Force and some Ivy League schools and whatnot.


and I think I got the appointments to the Naval Academy and Air Force,  and I was kind of fortunate that I was good enough at tennis  and I had good enough grades and good test scores that I really,  I think I could have pretty much gone anywhere, believe it or not.  Not that I was such a spectacular student, not that I was such a great tennis player,  but I checked enough boxes that all the schools, it was easy for me to get in everywhere.  I don't think, everywhere I applied, I think I got in, believe it or not.


So St. Andrew, I went to St. Andrew's.

I went to St. Andrew's.

We had a ridiculous tennis team.

Vince Spadia played one.

So I wound up, I wanted to be in New York, so I wound up going to Columbia.  And I guess, all right, so you guys are going to ask me questions,  so I don't know if there's any more you want me to talk about.  So St. Andrew, I went to St. Andrew's.  I went to St. Andrew's.  We had a ridiculous tennis team.  Vince Spadia played one.  So we went into every match basically winning, you know,  we were up 2-0 at the beginning of every match.


So we won.

So I didn't play.

I think it was in nationals.

They played first through six.

So I was the alternate.

So we only had to somehow win a couple of matches otherwise to win.  So we won.  We beat Dauber's team, which was a ridiculous team also.  I was in seventh grade, and I was number seven on that team.  So I didn't play.  I think it was in nationals.  They played first through six.  So I was the alternate.  And I have an amazing photo somewhere that I sent Dauber where it's like me and him.  And I really looked up to him and all that crowd, like a couple years older than me.


Those guys were so good.

They were so good.

We had a pretty spectacular team.

Those guys were so good.  You know, Vince's gen, you know, like Guskey and Barron and fucking Dauber and Damon Henkel and all those guys.  They were so good.  But, yeah, so we won nationals that year.  And every year we were really contending for something.  We had a pretty spectacular team.  And then the girls team, believe it or not, the girls team, as the years went on,


Listen to this lineup, right?

She won Wimbledon with Davenport.

Karina was an amazing story.

And what a sweet girl.

She's awesome.

And Yanni, right?

The girls' team wound up being better than the boys' team.  Listen to this lineup, right?  There were, like, I think from St. Andrews, there were, like, maybe five or six kids that played pro,  like, maybe being ranked top, I don't know, 400, 500, and some of them top 20.  But Karina Mararu, right, she was number one in the world in doubles.  She won Wimbledon with Davenport.  Karina was an amazing story.  And what a sweet girl.  She's awesome.  And Yanni, right?


So Mike Yanni and who else?

Who else?

There were others.

You're talking about girls now.

Let's stick with the girls.

You got Lisa Puglisi.

Oh, Lisa.

Right.

Oh, the Spadians.

So both Spadians.

So there were – so Luann and Diana.

Diana and Lisa Puglisi.

I forget who even played.

Oh, Pushkin.

Yeah, Allie Pushkin.

Played five.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She was insane.

So Mike Yanni and who else?  Who else?  There were others.  You're talking about girls now.  Let's stick with the girls.  You got Lisa Puglisi.  Oh, Lisa.  Right.  Oh, the Spadians.  So both Spadians.  So there were – so Luann and Diana.  Diana and Lisa Puglisi.  And, God, that whole team was ridiculous.  I forget who even played.  Oh, Pushkin.  Yeah, Allie Pushkin.  Played five.  Yeah, yeah, yeah.  She was insane.


She went to Princeton.

Wow.

Like she, you know, not a game.

It was crazy.

All right.

I got them for you.

Hell yeah.

Let's go.

Let's go.

Here we go.

Let's go.

All right.

Well.

She went to Princeton.  I think she like never, she didn't lose a game.  Not only it was, she was in Sports Illustrated for not losing a game,  her entire senior campaign of her senior year in tennis.  Wow.  Like she, you know, not a game.  It was crazy.  All right.  Greg, Greg, are you ready to answer these questions though?  I got them for you.  Hell yeah.  Let's go.  Let's go.  Here we go.  Let's go.  All right.  Well.


We'll get into that in a little bit.

There it is.

All right.

Does that work?

Okay.

Let's go.

All right.

I sucked at tennis.

These aren't the fun.

Go ahead.

Let's get through the tennis stuff.

I got to ask him.

Do you still have your umbros?

I'm going to turn around my RK hat for this.  We'll get into that in a little bit.  There it is.  All right.  So we're going to ask you some tennis questions first.  We're going to start light, and then we're going to work our way into the juicy stuff, okay?  Does that work?  Okay.  Let's go.  All right.  He's really high, folks, so bear with me.  I sucked at tennis.  These aren't the fun.  Go ahead.  Let's get through the tennis stuff.  I got to ask him.  Do you still have your umbros?


no but i wish i did you know who does is mike ember that fucker dude he has all of his shorts  he has everything that he's purchased since the age of like 13 on the kid's amazing that's a  question but i don't know um all right where were you introduced tennis like where were you  in jersey or florida that was a question asked by somebody florida so at uh at boca bath yeah


Yeah, C.W. Lewis.

C.W.

Yes, C.W. Lewis was the head coach.

Yeah, they tried me with soccer.

I was, like, slow.

Yeah, this is cool.

You move a lot and you think a lot.

Yeah, C.W. Lewis.  C.W.  Yes, C.W. Lewis was the head coach.  I was six years old, and I think my parents knew I wasn't going to be very tall,  but I might have half a brain, so they kind of thought that tennis might be something.  Yeah, they tried me with soccer.  I was, like, slow.  And they tried me with baseball, and I was bored with it.  It wasn't kinetic enough, I suppose, or dynamic enough.  And then tennis, I was like, oh, this is cool.  Yeah, this is cool.  You move a lot and you think a lot.


All right.

There you go.

Yeah.

Well, all right.

Okay.

You know, but I don't know.

So tennis was the sport that kind of hooked me.  All right.  There you go.  When did it click that you could actually be a decent player?  Remember, these are all questions asked by people, not me.  Yeah.  Well, all right.  So that first tournament at Montana, I was like, wow, I won a tournament.  Okay.  You know, but I don't know.  I didn't know about rankings or anything like that.  And then I think a month later, there was a tennis club in Boynton.  You remember that tennis club with the clay courts?


Quail Ridge?

No, it wasn't Quail Ridge, man.

It was like a Boynton Tennis Center.

I don't remember.

I remember playing.

Public facility?

Yeah.

Yeah, Boynton Tennis Center.

Is that gone?

Where is that now?

Still there.

Still there.

Still there.

Yeah.

And I was ranked at that point.

I didn't know what that meant,

Quail Ridge?  No, it wasn't Quail Ridge, man.  It was like a Boynton Tennis Center.  I don't remember.  I remember playing.  Public facility?  Yeah.  Yeah, Boynton Tennis Center.  Is that gone?  Where is that now?  Still there.  Still there.  Still there.  So I went to a tournament there, and they had the draw sheet up,  and then I was seated, and I was like, oh, wow, look, I'm seated.  Yeah.  And I was ranked at that point.  I didn't know what that meant,


All right.

So that was probably first year 14s.

Okay.

That's fair.

They're going to get juicier.

So bear with us here, folks.

but I was ranked like in the 60s or something.  So then I kind of had the impetus to try to be higher ranked.  So that's when I thought to myself, hey, this could be interesting trying to get more highly ranked.  All right.  So that was probably first year 14s.  Okay.  That's fair.  Now I'm going to get a couple more tennis questions.  They're going to get juicier.  So bear with us here, folks.  Did you consider yourself an underachiever?


Oh, for sure. For sure. All right. I still am. Why, why do you always seem, why did you always  seem pissed off in junior tennis? Yeah, I don't know, man. I didn't start smoking weed till I  was like 16. I think I had like a lot of pent up frustration. You know, why was I always mad? I


I had my Game Boy.

I was chilling.

which for me, it definitely didn't.

All right.

It definitely didn't.

Your favorite coach in Florida?

Shit.

I think I, you know what, growing up watching, I wasn't really mad.  I mean, I grew up in Boca Bat, and I didn't have too much to be mad about, you know.  I had my Game Boy.  I was chilling.  But I think watching McEnroe, to be honest, and Connors as a kid,  I think I figured that if you got really pissed off, it made you a better tennis player,  which for me, it definitely didn't.  All right.  It definitely didn't.  Your favorite coach in Florida?  Shit.


Man, we had so many great coaches.

Oh, man.

C-Dubb was amazing.

C-Dubb was great.

Coach Fogelman was amazing.

He was really a football coach.

He wasn't even a tennis coach.

But he was a great motivator, man.

He knew how to get us to win.

Lawrence Siegel was great.

You know, your boy.

He's amazing.

Man, we had so many great coaches.  Oh, man.  I mean, I can list all of the ones that were so great.  C-Dubb was amazing.  C-Dubb was great.  Coach Fogelman was amazing.  He was really a football coach.  He wasn't even a tennis coach.  But he was a great motivator, man.  He knew how to get us to win.  Lawrence Siegel was great.  You know, your boy.  He's amazing.


Kessel was kind of, Gary was okay.

I'm not gonna talk shit.

Jim Scott was awesome.

Who?

You know that name?

Greg who?

Greg Cheeseright.

I know Greg Newhart.

I don't know Greg Cheeseright.

No, Greg Newhart was my coach too.

He was a baller boy.

Woo!

He was like six, whatever.

He was tall.

Kessel was kind of, Gary was okay.  I'm not gonna talk shit.  Jim Scott was awesome.  All the guys there, Luis Lobo, the Kurtz brothers were awesome.  Greg Cheeseright, I don't know if you know that dude.  Who?  You know that name?  Greg who?  Greg Cheeseright.  I know Greg Newhart.  I don't know Greg Cheeseright.  No, Greg Newhart was my coach too.  He was a baller boy.  Woo!  He was like six, whatever.  He was tall.  6'10".


He had the nastiest serve.

Holy.

Yeah.

Oh, he's frozen.

There he is.

You're back.

You're back.

Okay.

So I hope I'm not forgetting anybody.

There's actually a cool story.

There's a cool story about that.

So my mother, yes, he did.

Yes, he did, Mr. Goya.

Newhart had a ridiculous serve.

Yeah.

He had the nastiest serve.  Holy.  Yeah.  Oh, he's frozen.  There he is.  You're back.  You're back.  Okay.  So I hope I'm not forgetting anybody.  But, oh, my favorite coach of all time, Nick Volatari.  There's actually a cool story.  There's a cool story about that.  So my mother, yes, he did.  Yes, he did, Mr. Goya.  Newhart had a ridiculous serve.  Yeah.


class if you want.

Okay.

So, yeah.

And she was like, Nick.

So, um, so Nick Molotov, my mother was a flight attendant for 25, 30 years for US air.  And my mother was a really cool flight attendant.  She would take people that she liked from the back.  If they had an open seat in first class back in the day, you could move them up to first  class if you want.  Okay.  So, yeah.  So she was working a flight and Nick was in the back in coach.  And she was like, Nick.


So right before Agassi broke

and she was like,

to a camp or whatever.

So they looked into Knicks

It was far, maybe I was young.

and he was like, yeah, this was before Agassi broke.  Like this is when he was coaching Krikstein  and like Jimmy Arias and that generation, right?  So right before Agassi broke  and she was like,  cause I was starting to play tennis at that point  and they were thinking about maybe sending me  to a camp or whatever.  So they looked into Knicks  and it was retarded expensive or whatever it was.  It was far, maybe I was young.


but my mother moved Nick to first class and then a couple weeks later he wound up saying  like somehow my mother kept in touch with him and he was like why don't you send your kid over to my  camp and he sent me all this gear and stuff so I don't know to be honest I'd have to ask my  my pops whether it was free or whatever but somehow or another Nick made it so that so that


I would go. And I was young, you know, I was relatively young. And so I did. And Nick always,  I still see Nick and, you know, and it's great. It's, you know, I, he's had so many kids pass  through there, man. So many kids and so many ballers, like ridiculous ballers. But it was  the best time of my life for sure. I remember one week I was roommates with Brian Dunn, Brian Dunn's


on our page, right? And I asked him, I remember one time I was roommates with, they had like a  lot of rotation that went on at Volatarius with Filipousis and Grant Doyle. So it was that kind  of stuff. Like if you, you know, Volatarius, like you never knew who you were going to be either  playing next to or maybe getting a chance to hit with. Like I hit with Filipousis. To this day,  that was the most ridiculous ball I've ever, I've ever seen. And I, yeah, obviously Vince,


like growing up and whatever but Philip Poussis was was even the ball was way  bigger you know he wasn't as bright as Vince but but he hit he hit a ton more  so yeah so that's the story about about Nick Nick Nick still my favorite coach  of all time no doubt about it he's just an awesome dude and I love well you  answered that well how about your least favorite coach you ever worked with and


and wherever it may be who do you hate

and wherever it may be who do you hate  i didn't really hate any of them man i i really didn't honest honest i mean if i if i oh you know  no there weren't there weren't any there really weren't if they're i i just didn't uh i really  did i was i guess i was fortunate enough to not hate any of my coaches that's good  that's nice all right biggest rival in junior tennis


huh biggest rival that you didn't like would probably  in a lot of what well got a guy you just didn't like and you always and you played him a lot who  would agree oh stevie weinstein stevie weinstein for sure there you go steven weinstein okay so  here's the story you ready for the story about stevie because he was a good player very good


All right. And yeah, so Stevie, one of my early tournaments, like after I got to the five, I beat Mike Gimbert.  I won that tournament. I played Stevie. I was a clay quarter. I was short and slow.  But if I had time, I could generally figure out a way to maybe beat beat the dude.  So, yeah, thanks, man. So, so, so I played Stevie my second or third tournament at Golden Isles and Golden Isles.


Those courts were so slick and so fast.

I had no idea.

Field hockey or something.

That shit was so slick.

So Stevie beat me 0-0.

Those courts were so slick and so fast.  And Stevie grew up near there in North Miami.  And he had, yeah, man, he had definitely played on them plenty.  And he knew, he knew how to play on those courts.  I had no idea.  It was like playing on a hockey, hockey court, man.  Field hockey or something.  That shit was so slick.  So Stevie beat me 0-0.  And I, and I was, and he was rude about it, man.


I think he's a year behind.

And he wiped my ass on that court, boy.

And he was, and I was, you know, I was 12 and he was 11 or whatever.  I think he's a year behind.  And he wiped my ass on that court, boy.  And, and I never forgot that because I kind of felt like he didn't have to, even at 11  and 12 years old, he, he had this, he had, and to be honest, you know what, some like  kind of like almost Djokovic, but like a dick about it, you know, where he didn't have to


be so so bad about it right but it planted the seed that I was gonna get  revenge on in one of these days you got it you know you got it you beat him up  and eventually I did I got him at state close you did I got him at states he  played like a four-hour marathon with turnquist and Eric if you're around dude  I have to thank you because it was one of those it was one of those Tampa


summers where it was like 104 man it was and it was so thick and everybody was cramping out of  control and uh 1992 1992 greg okay 92 i know it was the 16th yeah yeah and i smoked him i dude i  i was ruthless like i did not want him winning a point not that you know look i i always tried


real hard to win, but I was, I knew I had him. I had him. And, and I just, I crushed him. And that  was the last, and the funniest thing, here's a funny thing. I was hanging out with Posner and  Nussbaum. I know some of you guys know them at the Lipton or whatever it's called now,  Key Biscayne, maybe, I don't know. Miami Open. 10 years ago. Okay. Miami Open. And,  and we were rehashing all of the, all of the wins. And they were like, what, what was your


No way. No way.

And they got him on the phone.

Listen to this.

I was like, oh, man, don't do this.

I said, well, it might not have been my best win as far as rankings,  but my favorite win is cranking Stevie at States.  And they were like, you didn't beat Stevie at States.  No way. No way.  I was like, dude, I'm telling you, I cranked him.  And they got him on the phone.  Listen to this.  They got Stevie on the phone, and he wouldn't cop to it.  Stevie was like, I don't remember that, Greg.  I was like, oh, man, don't do this.


Don't do it.

I got all the results.

That's a fact, folks.

Bet your ass that's a fact.

Oh, Roberto's asking where Posner's at.

Posner has a baby.

Shoot, I guess the baby.

Yeah, so Sean got married.

And, yeah, the jockey.

Oh, his dad.

Don't do it.  You tell those boys that I got all the results.  I got all the results.  Greg New beats up Stevie Weinstein at Hillsborough Community College in 1992.  That's a fact, folks.  Bet your ass that's a fact.  Oh, Roberto's asking where Posner's at.  So, Posner, I saw him a couple years ago, man.  I see Nussbaum and Posner every so often.  Posner has a baby.  Shoot, I guess the baby.  Yeah, so Sean got married.  And, yeah, the jockey.  Oh, his dad.


Yeah, his dad passed away.

Yeah.

So that was really sad.

Sean was a kid.

He still is.

I guess I see Arthur once in a while.

Yeah, his dad passed away.  That was a crazy story in, like, a hydrofoil accident.  It was, like, racing boats at, like, 200 miles an hour.  Yeah.  So that was really sad.  Sean was a kid.  He still is.  Sean is a hell of a character, and he's great, man.  I guess I see Arthur once in a while.  I haven't seen Arthur in a minute, but Arthur, Sean, Nussbaum, that whole crew, they're good, man.


everybody's good what's silver talking about yeah i'm just reading the uh never go down the line  yeah we did rob that was fun man so yeah so they're all good all right so a couple more  of these tennis questions all right um best tennis what was your best tennis moment  was it steven weinstein or was it the gator bowl somebody said a gator or gator bowl story


oh yeah the Gator Bowl so the Gator Bowl right so I peaked at 13 because I didn't grow I didn't  grow past 13 man I was I was uh I was five seven now I was by I will I will Roberto um I was five  seven at 13 and so you know there were kids that were plenty taller but I was still kind of like


at least average height at 13.

And so I, second year, 14s,

I got to the finals of the Gator Bowl.

I beat, like early on,

Yeah, Midwest.

I can't remember his name,

at least average height at 13.  And so I, second year, 14s,  I got to the finals of the Gator Bowl.  I beat, like early on,  I beat a kid that had won national indoors  from Chicago or somewhere like Illinois, Midwest.  Yeah, Midwest.  I can't remember his name,  but he had just, he had won indoors that year.  Now this was outdoor clay at Ponte Vedra.


Okay.

So no doubt in my mind, this kid was like top 10 in the country.  That was my best win for sure of my career.  My sad tennis career was I beat this kid that was top 10 in the country only really because he had never played outdoor clay before in his life.  Okay.  He looked, yeah, I mean, he was a baller, I could tell, but the kid hit really flat and he had no shot on this really chunky clay that I grew up playing on.


He couldn't move.

He couldn't breathe.

And so kind of like the Florida Open.

They'd be top 20 in the country.

So it was like 47 degrees and really, really humid, and the kid had no shot.  He couldn't move.  He couldn't breathe.  And so kind of like the Florida Open.  Remember when those kids would come down for the Florida Open from, you know,  the Midwest, from Wisconsin or whatever.  They'd be top 20 in the country.  I beat another kid that was top 20 in the country.  Same kind of deal because of the conditions.  They were definitely better tennis players than me, but the conditions, you know, smoked them.


And then one more tennis question.

You ready?

My least favorite teammate?

Yeah.

Controversial question.

Yeah, Silver.

I mean, I don't think he ever beat me.

He was so cocky.

Okay, yeah.

And then one more tennis question.  You ready?  Who is your least favorite teammate at St. Andrews?  My least favorite teammate?  Yeah.  Controversial question.  I think you know who asked that question.  Yeah, Silver.  I would say Andy Yanni, but I still like Yanni.  I mean, I don't think he ever beat me.  He was so cocky.  Okay, yeah.


I mean, maybe he snuck a win.

I don't think so.

Oh, Rene.

No, I like Rene.

We went to Columbia together.

I could appreciate Rene.

He was –

Different.

Very different.

Rene was a German.

Yeah, he was German.

and a German, our top three or four.

And to this day, he says he beat me, right?  I don't think – I'm not trying to be a Stevie on this one.  I mean, maybe he snuck a win.  I don't think so.  Oh, Rene.  No, I like Rene.  We went to Columbia together.  I could appreciate Rene.  He was –  Different.  Very different.  Rene was a German.  Yeah, he was German.  Like, my senior year, we had four – wait, how many silver?  I think three of them were, like, European – oh, yeah, we had two Swedes  and a German, our top three or four.


I had to go to college with him, Rob.

But, yeah, he was cocky but cool.

Yeah, I didn't really know Andy.

I guess I'll ask you this question.

We'll stay with tennis.

One more question.

And so, Rene, I could appreciate because I knew it was all an act.  I had to go to college with him, Rob.  But, yeah, he was cocky but cool.  You know, I didn't dislike Andy, but he was definitely, you know,  he definitely thought he was a better tennis player.  His brother was a baller, of course, and Mike is a really nice kid.  Yeah, I didn't really know Andy.  I mean, I probably met him once or twice,  but Andy's so much older than me that I never was around him.  I guess I'll ask you this question.  We'll stay with tennis.  One more question.


Tennis-wise, Vince for sure, man.

Vince was always the best around.

Yeah, nobody, man.

He was so awesome to watch.

And what guy from Boca was the guy that you look up to?  I'm going to assume a Vinny Spadia, Ivan Spinner.  Is there anyone from Boca that you always looked up to?  Tennis-wise, Vince for sure, man.  Vince was always the best around.  There was nobody that could compete with Vince.  Yeah, nobody, man.  He was so awesome to watch.  I was a better tennis player just being around him.


All right.

Are you ready?

So hopefully they're okay.

All right.

Are you ready?

Here we go.

Oh, my God, no.

What did they do?

They're way old.

I mean, he was – and his father is so classic and so amazing.  All right.  Now we're going to ask you some good questions non-tennis related.  Are you ready?  Just when I see some ladies coming in, Lana and Lori.  So hopefully they're okay.  All right.  Are you ready?  Here we go.  Did you nail any of the Fogelman family?  Oh, my God, no.  What did they do?  They're way old.  First of all, Coach's wife was like 50-something years.


No.

No. Okay.

No, I did sleep with a college teacher.

Professor, but no one from St. Andrews.

Hell no, man. Shit. And his daughters were way older than me, Chrissy and Stacey. Man, there's no, no, dude.  These are not my questions. These are not my questions. I am conveying them to you, Mr. New.  All right. Did you sleep with any St. Andrews teachers?  No.  No. Okay.  No, I did sleep with a college teacher.  Professor, but no one from St. Andrews.


Whatever. We were adults.

Yeah, that's fair.

She wasn't a professor.

I don't know.

I don't think.

Like, oh, you know what we did, though?

Whatever. We were adults.  Yeah, that's fair.  She wasn't a professor.  She was like whatever those, like the lab, like they taught a lab.  I don't know.  It wasn't really like a full-on professor or whatever.  But, I mean, I was 18 at that point, so that's not really that salacious.  I don't think.  Did you sleep with any girls from Florida tennis when you were a junior tennis player?  I don't think so because those girls were so on lockdown, man.  Like, oh, you know what we did, though?


I'll tell you a good story. We did sneak out to Mons during States. Okay. Mosey Miller. I'll give  you, I don't know if you remember Mosey. I do remember. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Okay. So  one year, one year we snuck out. I don't know. Rob was probably too young. Um, Greg Bonner,  my, I know it was Greg Bonner, myself, Mosey,


and I'm not sure who else. We snuck out. Mosey was pretty insane. He had an older sister  that taught him everything. He bought 40s for us. We're walking down the streets of Dale Mabry  drinking 40s at 14, 15 years old while we're supposed to be asleep at the Days Inn under


coach Fogelman's watch we we we went to Mons and we got we got friction like we got down and dirty  at Mons when Mons was really popping yeah okay and I think I lost the next day Scott  no that was Brett Rowley who asked that question how do you know Greg Cheese yes yes dude she's


I've never heard of him.

Oh, he was awesome.

Oh, he was a stud, man.

He was from Michigan.

I think he played D1.

I forget.

I think it was at Michigan, maybe.

Before C-Dub.

Remember Eric Wall?

I don't know.

Actually, Cheese Wright was the head pro.  I've never heard of him.  Oh, he was awesome.  Oh, he was a stud, man.  He was from Michigan.  I think he played D1.  I forget.  I think it was at Michigan, maybe.  And he came down, and he was the head pro at Boca Bath,  and he was the first head pro at Seasons when it first opened before C-Dub.  Before C-Dub.  And then Eric Wall came in with C-Dub, I think, right?  Remember Eric Wall?  I don't know.


Was Ember your partner with that?

It never stopped. It's still going.

Vaguely. I remember the name, but I don't. Roberto, you've got, dude, Mons is still open.  We'll have to do it one day when your kids grow up.  Never been to Mons? Wow. Okay. That is interesting. I wouldn't have guessed that.  All right. So now the questions about the porno industry. How did that all start, I should say, with Ember?  Was Ember your partner with that?  It never stopped. It's still going.


Okay, it's still going.

Okay.

Okay.

So he was in Las Vegas.

Okay, it's still going.  Okay.  Well, how did you launch your porno campaign?  Okay.  So, all right, Mike, as I said, Mike got a full ride to UNLV, all right?  So he was in Las Vegas.  My mother was a flight attendant, so I had free, as long as there were seats available,  I would fly standby, and I would go visit Mike as often as I could in Vegas on weekends.


Like I would just take a taxi to LaGuardia or JFK and I would sit there at the airport and just hop on a plane, whichever plane went with a seat available to Vegas.  So I did that. I did that towards the end of college.  And around my so my sophomore year, I started getting into hacking like I was always into computers.


My dad got me into computers at a really young age.  And, you know, I was on bulletin boards.  And I don't know if you guys know about that stuff, but I was doing all of the kind of late night, getting on bulletin boards, snooping around, connecting to servers across the world and trying to break my way in or find a way in.


Wow.

Yeah.

And I ran a FTP site for Drink or Die.

I was the U.S. headquarters.

I mean, it sounds really lame, right?

And so my sophomore year in college, I was really into it.  I was in a Russian hacking group called Drink or Die.  Wow.  Yeah.  And literally, I was up until the sun came up because they were ahead, right?  They were on Moscow time, and I was on New York time.  And I ran a FTP site for Drink or Die.  I was the U.S. headquarters.  I mean, it sounds really lame, right?


But it was kind of like a precursor to anonymous.  So back in those days, these were the guys that would be an anonymous now.  I was kind of in one of these seedling Russian hacking groups back in the early 90s.  What was the value of doing that for you?  Was it just for fun or were you getting paid?  So part of the credo was that it was never for money.


There was no Netscape.

It was always to be done just for the community and for the spirit of hacking.  But I did wind up starting to realize that there was money to be made.  So let's back up to freshman year because this is actually pretty interesting maybe.  So freshman year, there was no graphics on the Internet.  There was no Netscape.  There was Mosaic, and it was all text, right?


There were no graphics yet.

Let's go to the year.

That year had to be 96.

Do I have that right since you're 94?

No, it was 93, man.

93 into 93, 94.

You're four years older than me.

That's right.

You're four years older.

Okay, go ahead.

Yeah.

Right.

There were no graphics yet.  Let's go to the year.  That year had to be 96.  Do I have that right since you're 94?  No, it was 93, man.  93 into 93, 94.  You're four years older than me.  That's right.  You're four years older.  Okay, go ahead.  94.  Yeah.  So my freshman year, before Netscape came out, which changed the world.  Right.  Before Netscape came out, there were the news groups,  and that's what you would use to communicate en masse to a lot of people.


you would put a post up similar to like forums today. And there was, I was a really big Beastie  Boys fan. I went to a lot of their shows and I collected all their tapes and whatnot. And I had  a really massive Beastie Boys collection because instead of going to class or playing tennis,  like I should have been, I was busy downloading all of these shows off of the news groups. And I  amassed a major, major collection. So there were a lot of people that were into the Beasties as well.


Cypress and Beasties.

Wow.

Yep, yep.

and they didn't have all the shows that I had.  So they were asking me, hey, Greg, can you send me,  they were calling me by name because it was all anonymous,  but they were like, hey, man, I want, yeah, yeah, May, that's right, dude, that show.  I got beat up in the, I didn't get beat up, but I got a black eye in the mosh pit at that show,  Cypress and Beasties.  Wow.  Yep, yep.  So freshman year, I was on the news groups,


Can you just do me a favor?

Well, I had every show.

I had every tape.

There was almost nothing I didn't have.

and these people were hitting me up and they were like,  man, I don't have anything that you don't have.  Can you just do me a favor?  Because it was a whole community thing where you're supposed to trade, right?  Like the Grateful Dead and Fish and all that kind of stuff.  If I have a tape that you want and you have a tape that I want,  well, let's make a copy and send it to each other.  Well, I had every show.  I had every tape.  There was almost nothing I didn't have.  So people were like, I don't have anything that you don't have,  but I really need that show from Tokyo or whatever.


So that started happening.

Two thousand bucks came in.

Right.

Like the first week.

So I was like, well, you know, I don't know, send me five bucks for my time and I'll do it.  So that started happening.  And then I actually posted on the news groups.  I was like, hey, anybody that wants any of my shows, send me 20 bucks and I'll do it.  Two thousand bucks came in.  Right.  Like the first week.  And I was like, whoa, I was like 17, 18 years old.  And in the mail room at my school, they're like, I don't know.  We don't know what you got going on, but we have to upgrade you to a professor's box because you have too much mail coming.


it. So, um, so yeah, so the beasties actually wound up suing me because I, I took it and ran  with it, man. I was 17 years old. I was making two grand a week copying Betamax or whatever the  Maxell tapes, Maxell too. Yeah. So that really happened kind of by, by accident, to be honest,  like I didn't plan any of that. And, but I got a taste, man. I was like, Whoa, I was like a couple


thousand bucks a week making copies of stuff that didn't belong to me. Shit, I could do that. No  problem, right? Well, so fast forward a year, right? Now I'm in a Russian hacking group. We  graduate from Beastie Boys to Microsoft software, right? So we had a mole inside Microsoft in our  hacking group. We had a dude that worked there, that hated Microsoft. So what he would do is he


would take their unfinished product before it hit the shelves and he would help us distribute it to  the masses, right? It was like this whole kind of, this whole movement where it was like, hey,  these big corporations suck and Linux is cool and we want everything to be free and there should be  no intellectual property. So what we did was I was the U.S. headquarters for this group Drink or


die and the same thing kind of happened where people were like dude we don't know how you have  access to windows 95 but this was before it was available on shelves we had the final copy like  a month before people are willing to pay like 500 bucks for it man so i started selling it i started  selling it in new york and otherwise i would just put it up on i would put up advertisements i'd be


It was $1,000.

from NCAA violations to FBI.

They got me good.

They owe me to get to it.

like, hey, you know, I have Windows 95 and I will sell it to you.  And this was right when CD burners came out.  I remember my first CD burner was a Plex store 1X.  It was $1,000.  And I used like some Beastie Boys money to, yes, Robert, thank you,  from NCAA violations to FBI.  We'll get to the FBI, boy, because I did not beat them.  They got me good.  They owe me to get to it.


They do.

They do.

it.

Can't stop, won't stop.

that stuff.

I had it before everybody else.

It was pent up demand.

And I led this kind of party lifestyle.

They do.  They do.  I could have stopped, but I just, if I would have stopped, they would have been home for  it.  Can't stop, won't stop.  So sophomore year in college, I started selling Adobe, Photoshop, Microsoft products, all  that stuff.  I had it before everybody else.  It was pent up demand.  And I started making, you know, another two, three thousand bucks a week at a young age.  And I led this kind of party lifestyle.


Right. This was before Wi-Fi.

I was going to the tunnel and limelight and all these clubs in New York and just living, you know, living a crazy life for, you know, for that time and that age, relatively speaking.  And and it just progressively got bigger and bigger.  So I'm saying all this because this is how RK wound up getting started, was that this was before they had high speed in hotels.  Right. This was before Wi-Fi.


Yep.

This was when you were plugging in directly just after 56K and they had 10BaseT where you're plugging the Ethernet right into the laptop, right?  Yep.


I would go to hotels in New York that just got high-speed internet, like the Soho Grand, the Ritz, the fanciest hotels.


Yeah. Right. And I would rent a room for 300, 400 bucks and I would hook up a bunch of laptops and I would just start spamming for porno, Viagra, anything like Photoshop.  Like, yeah. And then what would happen is eventually they would kick me out.  Like I would live there for like three or four days. I would live in a suite. I'd order room service.  I'd have all my friends. We'd party. We'd have girls. We just party and spam.


and I'd be sitting there just watching the money, you know, pile up, pile up, pile up, pile up.  And then I ran out of hotel rooms in New York because they blackballed me, right? There were  only, let's say, four or five in New York that had high-speed internet at the time because it  was brand new, man. It was brand new. What year? Give us a timeline. What year is this? Like 97-ish,


Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

It was 97.

City that have high speed internet.

Where is that?

Las Vegas, right?

98?  Yeah, exactly.  Yeah, that's exactly right.  It was 97.  And so I thought to myself, I said, okay, I'm banned from all of the hotels in New York  City that have high speed internet.  Where is there a high concentration of luxury hotels that have high speed internet?  Where is that?  Las Vegas, right?


All right.

So he was.

You said it now.

Yeah, he was legit.

He was running a call service.

We were 19, 20, 21 years old.

He was running a call service.

So my best friend, my doubles partner, Mike Ember, was on his full ride at UNLV, balling out.  He, I don't know if he wants me to say this, but he was running a call service out there.  All right.  So he was.  You said it now.  Yeah, he was legit.  He was running a call service.  He was a, you know, he was a entrepreneurial young guy.  We were 19, 20, 21 years old.  He was running a call service.


And I flew out to Vegas with a couple of kids I went to college with to go spam out of the Four Seasons, which is the top floors of the Mandalay Bay.  Right. So I rented I rented I rented a really fancy suite at the Four Seasons.  And Mike showed up with a couple of the girls that were in his call service, really cute girls, young, 18, 19 years old.


and um and mike i remember it like it was yesterday man we're sitting there in the  four season suite it had two bedrooms it had three bathrooms it had a bar it was a really  sick room suite and kimbo was there right so kimbo slice i don't know if you guys know kimbo  um uh we so kimbo went to palmetto with mike okay and and they had an amazing they had a pretty


amazing. Oh, Chris Presley went there. Now that I think about it, Chris Presley, you could ask him  about it. Chris Presley knows Mike for sure. And Kimbo Kimbo was, was, was at Palmetto. And so was  one of the Marley Rohan Marley, who played for the hurricanes later, was also at Palmetto that time.  So, so Mike showed up with these girls to the suite at the four seasons and Kimbo was there.


They're blowing rails off of the table.

We're all fucked up on Molly.

Ferg was Ferguson, was manning the door.  He ran kind of security for Mike's call service.  And the scene was me, Mike, Kimbo, two of my buddies from college that were working for me at this time.  They're blowing rails off of the table.  We're all fucked up on Molly.  There's two hoes running around the room naked.


Party poker was getting popular.

I forget.

There was poker going on, I remember.

And Mike turns to me.

and sell it on the Internet?

and I had all the laptops set up blasting out spam for porno and for poker.  Party poker was getting popular.  I forget.  There was poker going on, I remember.  And Mike turns to me.  He looks at the laptops and he looks at me and then he looks at the girls  and he looks at me again and he goes, Greg,  what do we got to do to take my girls and put them on your computers  and sell it on the Internet?


I have the ability to encode the video.

You got the girls.

I had really huge pipes at the time.

We had, man, we were given as freshmen,

And I was like, we only need a camera because I have everything else.  I have the ability to encode the video.  You got the girls.  I got the computer knowledge and power to distribute it.  I had really huge pipes at the time.  So I was kind of unique in that Columbia University was the second.  We had, man, we were given as freshmen,


we were given internet lines that would cost $20,000 in the open marketplace because of the  connection to Wall Street. So Columbia was such a feed to Wall Street. In our dorm rooms, we were  given T3s, which would cost at that time $20,000 a month. So I'm sitting there with this pipe,  right? And I had it throughout. That was the start of Icy Porn, Greg May. Icy Porn was the


first iteration let me actually you know let me stop you for a second greg by the way this is a  lot more interesting than the boys 14's draw sheets online draft so let's keep going here we go  all right go ahead yeah man so um yeah so so i told mike i said dude i said all we need is a camera  right and this was right when the paris hilton tape came out the paris remember that green you


guys remember the infrared green shit when she was sucking that guy's dick and it was it was really  lame but it was Paris Hilton so it was like wow look at her it's it's green and she's kind of  giving him a blowjob or whatever so we went we bought that same camera we went to Best Buy in  Vegas I remember I I rented a white Cadillac DeVille and me Mike Kimbo and my two buddies that


from college the five of us piled into this white cadillac de vil we drove out to best buy  so we bought we bought that camera and mike had no clue mike had no clue uh how to how to use a  camera really because this is before camera phones obviously and like the big dhs he was never into


We go back to the Four Seasons, right?

We're walking down the hallway.

He was in the suite next to us.

We had like the junior presidential.

Right.

So we bought that green infrared camera.  We go back to the Four Seasons, right?  We're walking down the hallway.  We're walking down the hallway, the five of us across.  And who comes the other way walking down the hallway?  Howie Long, the NFL announcer guy, right?  So I'm like, hey, Howie, what's up, dude?  He was in the suite next to us.  He had like the baller presidential suite.  We had like the junior presidential.  Right.


So, so Howie, he looked at me and he looked at the rest of us and he just shook his head. He's  like, I don't know what the fuck you kids are about to do, but I want no part of it. I'm out.  He didn't say anything. He just walked right through us, literally walked right through us.  And so we went back in the room and Mike was like, okay, I think I got the camera figured out.  You know, who's going to fuck these girls, right? And I was like, I was like, I'll do it.


Nate, your boy, Greg, Newt, right here.

What's up?

like as adults, and she recognized me.

Wow.

I was like, holy shit.

Yeah, it was crazy.

Nate, your boy, Greg, Newt, right here.  What's up?  So we went into the master suite, and Mike's filming it,  and it's me naked running around the room with these two girls.  And you know what's funny is I ran into one of those girls not long ago,  like as adults, and she recognized me.  Wow.  I was like, holy shit.  Yeah, it was crazy.  I was like, do you know what has happened, what has transpired since that night?


And she's like, yeah, dude.

I was like, that was us.

We did that.

Wow.

And Bobby Curtis.

Oh, Bobby.

Shit, man.

He was the best.

I love Bobby.

That's hilarious.

So, yeah.

So that's how it all started.

And she's like, yeah, dude.  I was like, that was us.  We did that.  Wow.  You know, we kind of lit that fire there.  And Bobby Curtis.  Oh, Bobby.  Shit, man.  He was the best.  I love Bobby.  That's hilarious.  So, yeah.  So that's how it all started.  I mean, I don't know if you guys want to hear more about it, but that night was the first night.


You see Rob's comment?

Mike is such a pack rat.

I know he still has that tape.

My boy still has that tape.

All right.

Unbelievable.

You got to answer this question.

That was the first night that Mike and I had ever produced any porn-related content.  You see Rob's comment?  So, Rob, oh, you know what's funny, dude?  Mike is such a pack rat.  I know he still has that tape.  My boy still has that tape.  All right.  Unbelievable.  Well, I mean, here's a good question for you.  You got to answer this question.


Oh, jeez.

I mean, you've got to answer that one.

Get us that tape, he said, Rob Silver.

You don't want that tape.

Not very impressive, Rob.

Well, we keep going with this story, but which Florida tennis girls would you like to star in a porno?  Oh, jeez.  I mean, you've got to answer that one.  Give me two or three Florida tennis girls you want in one of your productions.  Get us that tape, he said, Rob Silver.  You don't want that tape.  Not very impressive, Rob.


So, you know what?

I don't remember.

Honestly, I don't remember their names.

It's a shame.

I know where she was from.

I creeped on her so hard.

It's Billy Wright's sister.

I don't know, dude.

I don't know.

I hope not.

I hope not.

I'm sorry, Billy.

I don't think so, bro.

It's got to be.

Roberto, would you agree with that?

I don't know.

So, you know what?  I don't remember.  Honestly, I don't remember their names.  It's a shame.  Dude, there was one girl from Port Charlotte.  I know where she was from.  I creeped on her so hard.  It's Billy Wright's sister.  I don't know, dude.  I don't know.  I hope not.  I hope not.  I'm sorry, Billy.  I don't think so, bro.  Who else is from Port Charlotte than Billy and Amber Wright?  It's got to be.  Roberto, would you agree with that?  I don't know.


Was she cute?

I don't know.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it was Amber Wright.

Maybe it was.

I don't know.

I'm sorry.

I didn't know she had any brother.

My bad.

I mean, everybody.

All right.

Anybody else?

That's a good question somebody asked.

That's a good one.

That is a good question.

I'm trying to think of other.

Oh, man.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, a lot of them.

I see all of you boys.

Was she cute?  I don't know.  Oh, yeah.  Yeah, it was Amber Wright.  Maybe it was.  I don't know.  I'm sorry.  I didn't know she had any brother.  My bad.  I mean, everybody.  All right.  So we want Amber Wright in one of your productions.  Anybody else?  That's a good question somebody asked.  That's a good one.  That is a good question.  I'm trying to think of other.  Oh, man.  I mean, I really don't remember the names.  I'm sorry.  There were a lot of cute girls, though, dude.  We were all – I will speak for all of us young men that we were all very fortunate to be tennis players growing up because those girls were so cute.  Yeah, a lot of them.  And I think they set us up for a lot of success.  I see all of you boys.  I see all my guys with gorgeous wives way beyond our means, all of us.


Dude, yeah, for sure, man.

So I think the groundwork was set by us being junior tennis players where we we kind of, you know, we hung around very beautiful, classy young ladies and we learned how to kind of schmooze and we learned how to be gentlemen.  And and so that's my my statement on that.  All right. Were there any moms? Here's a good question.  Scott, any any Florida tennis moms that would star in your porn?  Dude, yeah, for sure, man.


Milf Hunter.

The first one was Come Fiesta.

I actually moved out to Vegas.

You remember Kukis's mom?

He was ranked like in the low 60s, 70s.

He was such a nice kid.

He never really cared too much.

His mom was a model.

She was legit a model.

Then there was another kid

from West Palm whose mom

was really hot.

I remember

spending a lot of time in the shower

I can't really think of mom.

whose mom was so hot?

I just can't even...

No one really can come to my mind

So we have Milf Hunter, you know, like Milf Hunter was our first.  We had that was one of our biggest sites.  Milf Hunter.  The first one was Come Fiesta.  So Come Fiesta, the first scene was shot on my couch in Vegas.  I actually moved out to Vegas.  OK, so the moms, there was there was Rob Silver.  You remember Kukis's mom?  Boy, Kukis, Kukis, Kukis went to St. Andrews.  He was ranked like in the low 60s, 70s.  He never really gave a shit about winning.  He was such a nice kid.  He never really cared too much.  His mom was a model.  She was legit a model.  Then there was another kid  from West Palm whose mom  was really hot.  I remember  spending a lot of time in the shower  thinking about her. I don't remember the kid's name.  I can't really think of mom.  Now that I'm trying to put myself in your spot,  whose mom was so hot?  I just can't even...  No one really can come to my mind


think about it um that's a tough question that's a tough question man that's a tough one all right  let's go back to your um let's get noah's mom was hot i don't even remember noah's mom um  bode miller i don't know who that is bode miller i don't know isn't he like a skier yeah i don't  know uh he's like an olympics you could always scout the 10 and unders by the um anyway all


So let's go back to what everybody wants to hear. So all right, let's go. We finished up the Las Vegas stuff. Now, where are you going into where you got into some trouble with the law? What happened there? How did that happen?


yeah so with with the spam right I was making a lot of money dude I was making at 22 years old I  was making 10 grand a week not now now not every single week right I would have I would like get a  conscience all of a sudden and I would be like well if I stop now if I stop now they'll forget


about me and then I won't get in trouble. Right. So nonsense, but they, they legit, um, like the  porno was fine. Um, I was making, I was making a lot of money at a young age and Mike Ember,  um, was doing the porn thing and he was just getting started with it. And he and I started  a, uh, a porn company called super sting. That was before icy porn where we were 50, 50 partners.


we started producing porn content and i at some point i said to mike i said mike you know what  i'm making so much money it's my best friend i was like i'm making so much money with all this  other shit i'm doing why don't you take the porno and just have it like just do it like you know  go ahead right okay so fast forward they just sold for nine figures five years ago right nine


figures wow nine not my boy so yeah which is great right I mean that's that's uh that's a  fantastic feeling that your best friend did so well and was so successful and still is and that's  and that's awesome so me on the other hand what what wound up happening was after the I I got


disinterested with the porn, I started getting involved in stock promotion, which was a terrible  idea. Terrible idea. I was making a couple million a year, not legit, but under the radar, believe it  or not. I was pulling in a couple million a year at 24, 25 years old. And it was relatively under


the radar because it didn't tick enough boxes for the government to get so terribly interested  i was mostly selling pirated software and it wasn't all it wasn't all illegitimate keep in mind  it was it was a mix like half of it was legit and then the other half was not legit so counterfeiting  adobe photoshop the government didn't didn't really give a about adobe or microsoft they


Yeah.

Man, I loved you.

I still do.

I knew it.

I was like, he is not tall.

They were like, they're big boys, and I always wanted to be you, Hugo.  So Hugo was a roommate of mine at Volatari.  Yeah.  Hugo, I remember when you showed up, kiddo, with that fucking hair, man.  Man, I loved you.  I still do.  I remember when Hugo showed up with the hair, and, man, I was like, this kid is special.  I knew it.  I was like, he is not tall.  I hope he grows because he's going to be a fucking amazing tennis player, and he did.


And that's awesome. So but anyway, so back to the story, I was making all that money. It was it was not all illegitimate, but it was it was half and half.


and what wound up happening was my cousin worked for Lehman Brothers actually my my cousin's  husband right my first cousin's husband was working for one of these Wall Street banks and  he was like dude he was like can we promote one of these stocks that I own because I'm I'm  underwater by like you know 400,000 bucks and if you could just get it up like a dollar or two  you know it would mean the world to me and your your cousins you know we could send them to


private school and all this bullshit, you know, and it was a sob story. And I was I'm not saying  it like he made me like do it because he didn't. I was like, fuck, yeah, dude. I was like, let's  let's go ahead and try it. We made 10 million bucks. Right. Okay. So I was like, well, I was  like, you know, the all the little penny any bullshit that I was doing up till now pales in  comparison to this stock market shit. So why don't we go ahead and do this now? Give us a year. Give


us well what year is this yeah that was 2003 okay that was 2003 yeah that was  2003 15 years ago yeah 2003 2003 and you know what happened was January 1st 2014  they made spam unsolicited commercial spam you see as they call it federally


illegal. They, they, um, they enacted the canned spam act of 2014. Now at that point I was,  I was making so much money that I wasn't stopping, man. I didn't give a fuck. If they would have said  to me, kid, you're looking at 10 years, we're going to catch you. Eventually I would have kept  doing it. I was that far gone. I, I had a, I had a, a notion, a false notion that, cause my whole


life, no matter what I got caught with, I got away with it for the most part. Like I would get,  I would get caught, but then somehow I wouldn't really pay for it. Like I would get, I would get  some kind of slap on the wrist, but it wouldn't be, I just had a way I, you know, to be honest,  I had a way about me. I was lucky enough or whatever that I could always kind of,


you know i could always just kind of figure my way out of stuff and i was sincere like i was a  decent kid you know i wasn't a bad i never i wasn't no man no rodolfo he's a free man he's got his  he's got his girlfriend he don't have a white boyfriend he's got a white girlfriend yeah she's


cooking dinner right now as a matter of fact okay she yeah yeah um so uh yeah i have a 13 year old  kid that goes to american heritage he's not a tennis player i tried he's a he's super sweet  he's a great kid and um but yeah i'm uh i'm a dad i'm a dad and so is and so is mike ember so so  mike ember and i are still very close and he has a daughter that's roughly the same age of my son


and they're tight to do it and they're they're buddy buddy so we yeah so pretty amazing shit  we're dead we're dads man well um okay so let's get back to where the the feds got on your ass  and started to realize this guy's a problem this guy's on our radar okay so january 1st 2014 they


enact the can spam act and i wasn't stopping i was i was going full blown so so listen to this  all right this is how ridiculous i got i was i was up until that point i was promoting other stocks  like we would just buy a million shares of something for a dollar a piece right we throw a  million bucks into it we'd get it up to five dollars a share we'd sell it we'd make four


million we'd split it we'd whack it okay then we got the fucking brilliant idea to take our own  fraudulent company public okay so if you could imagine i mean kind of yeah it kind of it kind  of was like that a little bit it was more internet so it was uh wolf of wall street was all telephone


boiler room and mine was all internet bait so mine was like it mine's like an updated updated  uh wolf of wall street perhaps yep so what happened was was you know it's kind of like  could you imagine like a drug dealer being like well i'm doing really good selling drugs so let  me go ahead and raise money from the public and and so i can expand my uh i can expand my  fucking my network here because right now i'm buying from the mexicans but if i could only


buy from the peruvians i just need four million you know investment you know anyway so that's what  we did man so we promoted our own we promoted our own now that was my idea so to be honest that it  wasn't it wasn't uh you know i didn't do anything alone but i i was the one that was like can't we  just take ourselves public like why are we beating around the bush if we're if we're if we're doing


something wrong let's just let's do it like let's fucking take ourselves public yeah so we did so i  woke up one morning i was 27 years old i was worth 220 million dollars okay not bad not a bad coin  right there that's a number so um so that's when we were on the radar at that point like the nasd


the, uh, yeah, the regulators, they saw, they saw that IPO and they were like, this is not,  there's something up, something's up. This is not like a Goldman Sachs deal. This is some kind of  renegade, you know, chop house shop, chop shop doing this shit. And, um, they came down on us.  That was in March, October, October. One of my guys got cornered by the FBI in his parking garage.


What year? That was 2004. So it started at the end of, yeah, it started at the end of 2003  and, uh, and it ended October of 2004. All right. He ratted everybody out.  No, you know what? He, he called me right away and he was like, he was like, dude, he was like,  I'm really scared. I don't know what the fuck is going on. He was kind of a little bit innocent


in the sense of I hid him from a lot of the things that were certainly off color this particular he  was a Boca Bath neighbor of mine that I was very close with yeah and he had he had like he still  has like three passports so the kid was like a perfect he was a perfect kind of beard for me  because I knew if this shit ever hit the fan he could run to Switzerland he could run to Dubai


which he did and um you know so mamad i told him i was like dude i was like you didn't do anything  all right tell them be honest like you need obviously you're gonna need to get an attorney  and he had plenty of money you know that he owned with me at that point and i was like  i was like trouble this is this is the end kiddo this is this is you know it's it's going down so  this is a big time white collar crime are we getting uh cosinoster involved we get the mafia


involved here uh kind of you know my um so i'm half italian i'm half jewish right gregory alphonse  nemensky so so we could talk about my last name for a minute because this everybody's always  curious about the question that's another question but we'll get into that go ahead i want to know if  cosinostra was involved with this yeah so my mother my mother was italian and my father is


Russian Jew and they grew up in Newark which was half Jewish half Italian so my mother's side was  was mob connected and so was the mob involved not directly there was one deal that I did that was  mob influenced there was a yeah there was a guy that was in the mob that that he's he did he did


quite a bit of time when I did.

quite a bit of time when I did.  I'm a big mob guy. I watch a lot of documentaries. It seems like when the mob can figure out  that there's a good situation brewing, that somebody has a good white-collar crime, they're  going to force their hand in that. That's why I asked, because I assume that you had to...  Someone from one of the families had to figure out what you were doing at some point.


my I guess I'm right they were already doing it they were already doing it to  be honest they just lack they were like oh shit this kid is is involved in what  we are already doing so let's let's let's do a deal with them okay yeah so  there you go the mob is ball alright so when do the feds come to you when do we  when when does the when is your door knocked on what time frame what what


month, what year, and what goes down? So what happened was Muhammad and I, right, Muhammad was  my buddy that got cornered by the FBI in his parking garage. We had an agreement between the  two of us. I told him, I was like, dude, we need to buy anonymous cell phones, and we need to be  able to communicate with each other so that nobody knows. So we did that, right? We did.


We bought anonymous cell and it worked, believe it or not. The FBI had no idea. And we we were we had a we had an agreement.  We had a code is what we had, where if either one of us was being being the call was being monitored by the FBI.  We were going to start out the conversation talking about Paris.


That was the best or whatever.

So he called me.

And I was like, oh, fuck.

Oh, fuck.

I love it.

I love it.

Yeah.

Feds are watching.

Oh, my God.

Feds are watching.

Like, I don't know where we came up with that, but it was going to be like, hey, I just was remembering that time in Paris.  That was the best or whatever.  So he called me.  He called me, you know, a month after, like in November.  And he was like, dude, remember that Paris trip?  And I was like, oh, fuck.  Oh, fuck.  I love it.  I love it.  Yeah.  Feds are watching.  Oh, my God.  Feds are watching.


so that's that's when they started uh closing in on me i hired an attorney and um  when when they came um they to be honest with white collar it's not very dramatic it's not  like with drugs where they they battering ram the door down it's more it's more yeah it's paper it's


like, you know, they, they, uh, right. They send what's called a target, a target letter,  meaning it's, you're a target of a federal investigation. So I got that. And, and, uh,  and then, um, and then it just becomes this whole legal fucking nightmare. It was 10 years of my  life, man, from 27 to 37, I'm 42. Now I spent 10 years of my life under the government's care,


let's say or supervision well I guess did you did you just turn yourself in they  didn't come to you did you just say okay it's over I'm gonna turn myself in yeah  so what happened was my my cousin my cousin and I had what's called a joint  defense agreement which meant that we were functioning as equals the two of us  we were not gonna rat on the other we were going to go in together and say  here's what we did neither one of us was more culpable or less culpable than the


other. Okay. So, so judge us fairly and equally. Okay. So what does this motherfucker do? He breaks  the joint defense agreement, runs in there and rats on me and, and makes it that I'm the kingpin,  right? The 20 he's, he's, he's 40 years old and worked on wall street, worked for Lehman brothers  for a long time. I had no fucking clue. I worked at Morgan Stanley for a year and fixed things.


I really was not a Wall Street guy I was a technology guy and still am so so you  know he he broke the joint defense agreement and that really hurt that hurt  me a lot man so I was looking at I was looking at 20 years Wow 20 years yeah so


Okay.

Okay.

Wow.

All right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

No.

So he was afraid that he was going to get a dime.  So he was afraid that he was going to get 10 years.  And what he did was, in essence, was he locked in for himself that he was only going to get a maximum of five.  Okay.  And made it so that I could get a maximum of 20.  Okay.  Wow.  All right.  Yeah.  Yeah.  All right.  So this is all in New York City, correct?  No.


who's around and

That's a guy to be around with

I was actually living in Aventura at the time and I was playing tennis at the jockey club with Posner and Steve Burke  who's around and  That's a guy to be around with  Oh my god, so wait, this is all happening in Dade County when all these investigations not New York City  Not New York. I had three homes at that point  So I had I had a I had a sick apartment in New York in New York City. I had a


a I had another sick apartment in Vegas not far from the strip okay at the Las  Vegas Country Club and I had a in Aventura I had a nice place on the water  so he my so yeah he's he's apparently he's in Sarasota okay nobody


yeah nobody really uh hears from him much he i think he um he shacked up with some like rich old  some rich old lady he's all right sugar sugar mama he's alive he's alive he's alive yeah he's  alive nobody whacked him out nobody whacked him out no because he's yeah he's the father of my  my nieces right so my i have two nieces first cousin yeah yeah man that's tough


Wow.

Yeah.

Where?

Yeah.

Where was it?

It was in Jessup, Georgia.

Really?

Jessup, Georgia, outside of Savannah.

Yeah.

Okay.

It was fucked up.

Fucked up.

Okay.

Well, here's some questions.

Fucked up.

Here's some questions for you.

Are you ready?

Yeah.

All right, so how long are you in jail for?  I did a little over two and a half years.  Wow.  Yeah.  Where?  Yeah.  Where was it?  It was in Jessup, Georgia.  Really?  Jessup, Georgia, outside of Savannah.  Yeah.  Okay.  It was fucked up.  Fucked up.  Okay.  Well, here's some questions.  Fucked up.  Here's some questions for you.  Are you ready?  Yeah.


I don't know.

Any of these wonderful characters.

I don't know, man.

I just remember it being really wide.

Can you give us a story?

What was the biggest dick you sucked in jail?  And who do you think asked that question?  I don't know.  Any of these wonderful characters.  I don't know, man.  It was thicker than it was really thick.  I just remember it being really wide.  Can you give us a story?


good one in jail I mean plenty sure yeah a good story about the bucket well there was okay so my  father my father came to visit one time and my father he he brought in like we were designed my


father's a Czech cashier so we were designing a new store and my father  brought in like the the schematics for the new store into visitation which is  not allowed okay you're not allowed that's contraband right sure so we were  we were kind of you know discreet about it and we were we were looking over the  the schematics of the of the the new store and we were like okay the teller


will be here the safe will be here this and that and the one of the guards noticed that we were  looking at this piece of paper pretty intently so he comes over and he takes the piece of paper  so i'm like ah whatever you know it's it's a diagram for this new store that we're opening  they'll just probably throw it out they sent me to the hole they thought that i was planning on  escaping wow he's a moron holy shit um i was like you know i was like guys you know you're not the


brightest bulbs you know first of all the place that i was at originally had no walls all right  there was no there was no fence like you could you didn't have to escape you you just walked out  like it was it was a camp right so it was a federal it was a federal camp is where i started  which is where they put the guys that have five years or less that didn't do anything violent  right you know it was called you know non-violent offenders right so like martha stewart type


shit, you know, country club jail.

Okay.

It was until I got locked up for that.

Yes.

shit, you know, country club jail.  Was it a country club jail according to Joel Berman?  Okay.  It was until I got locked up for that.  Then they put me in a higher security place where it had a fence and had barbed wire.  And I was in there with violent people, not, not super violent, not like murderers.  There were some people that had killed some people.  Yes.


but it was one notch up.

meaning you couldn't just roam freely.

It sucked, dude.

It sucked.

It sucked.

Wow.

All right.

Like there was no light.

Holy shit.

Yeah.

but it was one notch up.  So it was definitely like controlled movements,  meaning you couldn't just roam freely.  It sucked, dude.  It sucked.  It sucked.  Wow.  All right.  So I did almost three months in the hole.  Like there was no light.  Holy shit.  Yeah.  Looking back on it, you know, to be honest,


it has toughened me up significantly.

I bet.

Shit that, man, I don't know.

Not anymore.

That's it.

I don't give a fuck.

You could stick a knife in my arm.

I'm really not going to budge much,

it has toughened me up significantly.  I bet.  Shit that, man, I don't know.  I mean, all you guys seem really well-adjusted,  and everybody, I'm so glad all you guys are doing so great.  But little shit used to really set me off.  Not anymore.  Almost nothing sets me off anymore, man.  As long as my kid's good, my girl's good, I'm good.  That's it.  I don't give a fuck.  You could stick a knife in my arm.  I'm really not going to budge much,


07, 08, and 09, yeah.

Do the feds take all your money?

Oh, yeah.

Well, so what happened, you know what?

To be honest, they didn't take it.

because as long as it's affecting me and not anybody else, I'm cool.  Well, when you walk out of jail, what year is that?  That was, all right, so I was locked up 07, 08, and 09, those three years.  07, 08, and 09, yeah.  Do the feds take all your money?  Oh, yeah.  Well, so what happened, you know what?  To be honest, they didn't take it.  I gave it to them because my attorney said,


Wow, okay.

That's what's going to happen.

Okay.

No, child was not born.

He said, here's what's going to happen, kiddo.  If you don't give them every last penny, they're going to give you 20 years.  Wow, okay.  That's what's going to happen.  And my wife at the time was pregnant with my son.  Okay.  So I didn't know he was going to be a boy at that time, but she was pregnant.  So she got pregnant, and then literally like three months later, they come and corner my, yes.  No, child was not born.


So my kid was pregnant.

Excuse me.

My kid was not pregnant.

So she had him.

So child was born before I went to jail, Joel, but the whole process before I actually self-surrendered was three years.  So my kid was pregnant.  Excuse me.  My kid was not pregnant.  My wife was pregnant with my kid when the government came and cornered my buddy.  So she had him.  It was a really kind of anticlimactic time in my life.  I'm like, this is supposed to be the best time in my life.


But meanwhile, like, you know, I'm having a boy, my first son, but I have the hanging shadow of jail time.  And I have no idea whether it's going to be a year or 10 years or 20 years at this point.  All right. So when you get out of jail, are you still married or do you get are you are you separated from your wife at that point?  Well, I mean, we were separated for involuntarily for so long that when I got home, it was a wrap, man.


I mean, she was a stripper, right?

I don't know if I mentioned that.

Yeah, yeah.

there was no possibility of that working.  It took such a toll on our relationship.  And we were never really strong to begin with.  I mean, she was a stripper, right?  I don't know if I mentioned that.  She wasn't a porn star, but, you know, I was living that life.  Yeah, yeah.  You know, it wasn't something that to me was like so, you know,  a deal breaker, which it certainly should have been.


What do I have here?

When you walk out of prison, are you like Denzel Washington, an American gangster, as they show him, just with nothing?  Like, as far as finance, like, you just seem like, oh, my God, this guy had everything.  Now he's on the street looking to see what the hell's going on in life.  Where were you at out of prison, like, job, financials?  Were you just like, what the fuck's going on?  What do I have here?  It's funny you mention that, because that movie actually came out while I was locked up.


Oh, what, great movie.

And yeah, maybe I'll check it out.

Okay.

So Joe Sedano was an uncle of mine

and he was one of Lucas's like guys,

and I still to this day have never seen it.  Oh, what, great movie.  And yeah, maybe I'll check it out.  So Lucas, so my, one of my uncles was a character,  not the actor, but legit on my mother's side,  one of my uncles was portrayed in that movie.  Okay.  So a family, yeah, he was actually Joe Sedano.  So Joe Sedano was an uncle of mine  and he was one of Lucas's like guys,


Wow.

You didn't see it.

So, yeah, crazy, right?

I went to St. Andrews.

like one of the guys that helped distribute the drugs or whatever.  So I haven't seen that movie, but my dad did tell me that one of my uncles was in that movie,  not as an actor, but one of the characters.  Wow.  You didn't see it.  So, yeah, crazy, right?  It's funny because if you think about it, you know, I grew up in Boca.  I went to St. Andrews.  I was a tennis player, for Christ's sake.


And that's how we wound up in Florida.

And then there's this whole other side that nobody, very few people knew about, that my father was really involved with all this crazy shit.  My father went to jail when I was young, and that's how we wound up moving to Florida, believe it or not, was that my mother picked up me and my sister and my grandma.  She was like, let's go down to Hallandale Beach while your father's in jail and get away from this shit.  And that's how we wound up in Florida.


He's a tough guy.

I remember that.

He's short, right?

He looked like he was a tough guy.

I will not fuck with him.

Yeah.

I remember your dad.

I remember your dad.

He's a tough son of a bitch, boy.

All right.

fascinating.

You know, what, all right.

Your father, I remember your father pretty well.  He's a tough guy.  I remember that.  He's short, right?  Real short, strong, just mean motherfucker.  He looked like he was a tough guy.  Dude, to this day, I won't fuck with him.  I will not fuck with him.  Yeah.  I remember your dad.  I remember your dad.  He's a tough son of a bitch, boy.  All right.  So, I mean, now we're, this goes from 20 questions now to an interview because it's unbelievably  fascinating.  You know, what, all right.


How do we coin that phrase?

Where's the origin?

Yeah.

But shit my white girlfriend says.

So how did that start?

I'll ask a question that somebody asked, and there's your – and by the way, how do we coin the phrase hashtag shit my white girlfriend?  How do we coin that phrase?  Where does the originality come from that?  Where's the origin?  Yeah.  So, yeah, my wife, she's – she got done cooking dinners, but she's going to eat.  I'll continue because I'm really enjoying this.  I haven't talked to a lot of you guys in a long time.  But shit my white girlfriend says.  So how did that start?


man one day she just said some ridiculous shit and I was like man that is the whitest shit  she's ever said and I always said to myself she's the whitest girl I've ever dated I've ever met  and uh and so I um I just I posted on Facebook I was like shit my white girlfriend says  and I put that quote and I forget what which one it was the very first one yeah but you know people


reacted to it very positively.

and that's so funny.

I would just kind of every morning

while I'm taking my morning dump,

And now I've got like a running,

where I have like 50 of them queued up.

reacted to it very positively.  They were like, oh, yeah, she's so white,  and that's so funny.  And then I just, you know, from there on,  I would just kind of every morning  while I'm taking my morning dump,  I would post the whitest shit that she said the day before.  And now I've got like a running,  I have like one of those notes on my phone  where I have like 50 of them queued up.


and I sit on the toilet

and I review them all and I'm like

right there.

to the top.

What did Rob...

No one's seen Peter Hoffman in years.

you know you're doing something right.

Yeah.

Alright.

So now your life is

and I sit on the toilet  and I review them all and I'm like  that's the one for today. That's the one  right there.  It's a hashtag that I think is resonating  to the top.  What did Rob...  Wow, Peter Hoffman's here. Jesus Christ.  No one's seen Peter Hoffman in years.  Greg, when you bring in Peter Hoffman in the show,  you know you're doing something right.  Yeah.  Alright.  So now your life is


back you're back on track um we're going back in time where do you land on your feet finally what  gets you back in in the game of making money and doing the things you want to do when does this  happen man well um okay so uh i have to think about this because i have to be careful about


what i say because i still have some ongoing things with the ira you really it's all good  it's all good just let me um let me say this when i got out of jail this this is what i was  this is what i was faced with i was in the middle of i had a i had a five-year-old son that i didn't  know how to be a father to okay like legit i only saw him once a month for the last two and a half


years or so in a visitation room where they just had like a game of battleship or something.  And my parents were awesome about bringing him as much as possible. But I got out and this is this.  So so I had to learn how to be a father to him. My mother had cancer. We found out right after I got


out. She was misdiagnosed while I was in prison as an ulcer. The IRS was after me for $8 million  or whatever the fuck. It was some nonsense where stock trades that they, the IRS, didn't talk to  the Department of Justice. So the Department of Justice took all the money. I gave them everything,  but they failed to inform the IRS of my case. So the IRS comes at me. When I come out of prison,


they a fucking IRS agent knocks on my parents door looking for me with a with a with a tax lien  for eight million dollars okay wow in Boca Boca battle yeah no they had moved to  Mission Bay they lived out west at that point they sold the house okay yeah they sold the house in  Boca Beth and bought a bigger house they lived in a bigger house out west which made no sense


but they, yeah. So, so there was that. So I was going through divorce. My mother had cancer.  I was on federal supervision, which meant that at any time my, my PO could show up and be like,  right now pissing this cup, like in my hand. And, or, you know, they'd show up at a bar and  they're like, drinking is a violation. You know, I could send you back to jail right now if I wanted


to stupid shit like that. I was that was yeah, man, that was my life. When I got out, it was  tough. It was very, very tough. Yeah. Yeah. So to answer your question. So the IRS now is  completely completely behind me. So now I don't have to structure anything, any kind of creative


way now. I do have an ex-wife, you know, that, but everything is, everything is kind of a-okay.  Thank you, Rob Silver. My mom loved you, man. She was wonderful. I remember, I remember Joe Newt,  wonderful lady. Oh man, she loved all of you. She thought all you guys were the best, really.  I watched your mother play doubles with my mother at Seasons. I mentioned that a couple months ago.


yeah man yeah your mom played those with my mom that's so cool man so awesome she was great and  tell her I said hi tell your parents I said yeah um so so so that was tough man so it was tough  coming home and I worked through it and now everything is relatively a-okay yeah okay and


what are you doing right now? I own a medical sales office. I have a, um, it's a technology  company, believe it or not. Legit. We're, we're, we're clean, right? Everything's clean. Yes, sir.  Yes, sir. We pay our taxes and everything. We produce a W too. More than, uh, Donald Trump can  say, to be honest, the fucking president sets a hell of a bar. Tell you what, man, that guy.


but yeah man everything's good I've got you know 40 or so employees and we help  people yeah yeah it's we're growing medical marijuana right good medical  marijuana I am a yes Rob thank you I am a I am a patient I'm a believer I'm a  user yeah and yeah so so that's what I do man it's not it I don't do medical


marijuana for a living. I'm just a patient. And you live where? I live in East Boca. I live in  East Boca and I play tennis sometimes at Delray. I play sometimes at the East Boca courts. I haven't  played in a while because Ember and I had been playing once a week. He tore something in his


knee or something. He's been injury prone. So I'm, I'm lazy. Like when my friends are,  when my friends are, are healthy and able, I play, but when they're, when they're not, I,  I stop. So yeah, but I think he's good now. So we're going to start, we're going to start  hitting again. Where does Ember live? Ember lives in Lauderdale. He lives, he lives on the water.


big reunion?

When is it? January 26

2019, Orlando.

Oh man. Possible.

It's certainly

possible. It's July

right? My schedule

changed.

If I can be there I will.

I'd love to see you guys.

I didn't realize you're still playing tennis  so that's great. You're still playing. Are you going to come to our  big reunion?  When is it? January 26  2019, Orlando.  Oh man. Possible.  It's certainly  possible. It's July  right? My schedule  changed.  If I can be there I will.  I'd love to see you guys.


Okay. I also, for all the Boca Del Rey guys out there, some are not watching this, some are,  I think I'll be down there in the fall to visit my folks, and I'd love to do that. I'd love to  get a Boca Del Rey reunion going somewhere in Boca. That would be a ton of fun. I don't know  how you top this show. I don't know how Danny McCain survives on Monday with 20 questions.


Hey, everybody's story is great, man.

You know, don't do that.

No, no, no.

I'm just fucking around.

I'm just fucking around.

I don't know how Dustin Mock can recover on lines are out on Wednesday.  And I guess we'll end with the last question here because my phone is going to die, Greg.  Hey, everybody's story is great, man.  You know, don't do that.  Please don't make anyone feel like they have to compete with my ridiculous fucking line.  No, no, no.  I'm just fucking around.  I'm just fucking around.  This is because, you know, we're not hearing these stories from anyone else.


This is a good question by somebody.

It's a great question.

There's no doubt about it.

A lot of people have similar paths in life, but this is pretty damn good.  Did tennis help you overcome all the adversity with the feds, with everything you did wrong?  Did any of your tennis lessons help you in this situation?  This is a good question by somebody.  It's a great question.  There's no doubt about it.


All you guys know this.

And tennis, to this day, has proved to be valuable to me all the time, man, all the time.  All you guys know this.  So, yeah, at Ball and Terry, so Jim Lehrer, I used to, you know, with Hugo and everybody else,  we'd sit in that room and watch the Jim Lehrer tapes, Dr. Lehrer.  And no doubt, man, no doubt, I still use a lot of those tactics today.


and tennis has been invaluable to me.

No doubt.

it would be a third set tiebreaker.

You'd be cramping all over the place

That's what it felt like sometimes,

You know, I don't know.

It was 10 weeks of that.

But I felt like I was at, you know,

and tennis has been invaluable to me.  No doubt.  There were times, you know, I mean, shit,  it would be a third set tiebreaker.  You'd be cramping all over the place  and somehow, sometimes we'd figure out a way to win.  That's what it felt like sometimes,  sitting in the hole, staring at the fucking wall.  You know, I don't know.  It was 10 weeks of that.  So like by week eight, I had completely lost my mind.  But I felt like I was at, you know,


have played tennis as, as a youth and,

baby.

like Isner at 32, 30 in the fifth or whatever, I was like, fuck it.  I'm not going to let him beat me. You know, I,  I'm going to do whatever it takes to, to stick it out. So yeah, tennis,  tennis is I feel very fortunate to have,  have played tennis as, as a youth and,  and all you guys being a part of it. And I love you all for even Stevie,  baby.


I do

I love you all

no doubt

Greg

blew me away

with just being

so candid

and that takes a lot

because

even little nuances

they're embarrassed about

but you brought it

you provided us an amazing path

I do  I love you all  no doubt  Greg  blew me away  and I think you blew everybody else away  with just being  so candid  and that takes a lot  a lot of people don't want to come on this show  because  even little nuances  they're embarrassed about  but you brought it  you talked about everything in your life  you provided us an amazing path